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Join the 1 Early Retirement and Financial Independence Forum Today - It's Totally Free! Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. Groucho Marx In dire need of: If it was consistently profitable, there would be a room full of people in India or China using it to make millions. Heck, they are willing to spend time in World of Warcraft goldfarming.

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OK, I hate to even admit this to this crowd, but several years ago, when I was still thinking that I could time the market and double my money on every deal, I did invest in the InvesTools training. Over time, I did recoup my investment -- but given the bull market I was operating in, I would have done as well if not better without my active participation.

The first paid seminar is a pretty good introduction to their trading tools -- how to read their charts, using technical analysis of moving averages, Stochastics, MACD and volume.

They also have some pretty good stock screeners -- all of which are made available to you through their proprietary software and web access.

Before I finally dropped out, I did attend one of their conferences in Las Vegas. Every one I talked to claimed to be making huge sums in the market, but not one admitted to losing a dime. Some of these folks were like religious zealots looking for new converts! Talk about being believers! I did learn about technical analysis and reading the fundamentals of a company before investing, but now know that I could have learned the same stuff on my own.

I consider it an expensive lesson -- but ultimately it did help me realize that I am much more successful with an asset allocation that I'm comfortable with and investments in primarily index funds. Two thoughts on this topic. First, if you're truly interested in any of these TV type programs, try EBAY. Secondly, that "Vitamin guy" makes more sense than most American trained MDs. He actually realizes the important of proper nutrition. After the first few responses to my original post, I almost gave up on getting anyone to give a reasonable explanation or idea about their experience.

In addition, despite those first responses, you, Achiever51, had the courage to say write your piece in fair detail - so I congratulate you on that, too. There I feel better now. Thanks for telling us. We all make mistakes, I would Itspoint at my first wife as one of mine. But mistakes are good to learn from. We should only be embarassed when we make the same mistakes over and over again. Originally Posted by fmhealth. Texas, you are indeed a fortunate individual that has found an enlightened Clinician.

One that actually realizes that there just might be some utility in supplementing your diet. Bright, you're right on target. KT should be the Head of the AMA, IMO. Simply one man's opinion after spending the past 48 years in healthcare. Originally Posted by bright eyed. Texas, that's exactly right.

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Antioxidants attack free radicals. They simply "donate" this extra electron to the free radical which neutralizes their negative impact. FRs are like cellular ball bearings, careening through all our cells desperately searching for that extra electron. We do "Rust" from the inside. That's precisely what happens to our organs if we don't properly supplement our diets.

Achiever, you've hit the proverbial nail right on it's head. My heart goes out to those desperate individuals that partake in such financial folly. They make it sound sooo easy. Originally Posted by ERD Way off topic, but Do you really think that is a good analogy? If you cut a person in half, yep their body will decompose very quickly. But living bodies have a natural defense and rebuilding system. The analogy is very, very flawed.

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I do believe we should eat healthy, a wide variety of good foods, but I'm not too convinced about supplements. Some of the research has shown that supplements are detrimental. The logic goes like this: A It is observed that people who eat a lot of carrots benefit in some ways. Carrots are high in beta-carotene. B So the pro-supplement people say - 'here, take this beta-carotene supplement'.

But, that does not take into account the fiber, and dozens of other components in carrots that may be needed in balance to achieve those health benefits. In some cases, the presence of ONE of those components will shut down the bodies uptake of the related components, sensing that it is already getting plenty based on the presence of one form of it.

So, in a convoluted way, the supplement can decrease the total uptake of the desired nutrients. And in some cases, the processing required to isolate the desired ingredient results in high levels of other non-desirable 'stuff'.

Weren't some calcium supplements found to have high levels of heavy metals in them? It's not nice to fool Mother Nature. Eat a variety of good food, and avoid the supplements, IMO. My thoughts should not be construed as investment advice.

Past performance is no guarantee of future results love that one This Thread is USELESS without pics Here is what we discovered at Investools Seminar.

Their system really is sweet. They took us behind the scenes of the 3 green and red arrows and showed us how those are formed.

They don't recommend just just jumping into buying a stock just because it has 3 green arrows. There are many areas that we are talk to look at first.

They don't promise that every trade is going to be a winner , but rather, by doing your homework, you can reduce the risk of picking a loser. We listen to the all of the picks on other TV shows and then run them through Investools Toolbox and see if they are fundamentally sound.

Once you learn the charts and how to read them, analyzing stocks is pretty easy, but it DOES take some brains and some homework!!

This is NOT for everyone I did start a paper trading account to see if what I learned really sunk in. So yes, this system really does work. They want to upsell MORE education.

They teach you the very basics and leave out a lot of tips on purpose so they can get you to buy more education. And the education is EXPENSIVE. They wanted me to go into debt on a credit card to purchase more education.

I felt sorry for all of the older people in the class. One 78 year old gentleman who was an intelligent man, said he just couldn't keep up. By the second day my brain was hurting and I was at my saturation point. And I am a teacher. They throw so much stuff at you. You can never really "master" anything. They don't go over enough examples of one thing so that it soaks in.

Then the instructor tells us that he doesn't even trade stocks anymore that's why I am there, to learn about all of the signals When I spoke with other people in the company, they said they don't do stocks either, just options.

Then he just does options and has a bundle of money and plays golf. Do I believe what they are telling me? I do believe it. You CAN make money in the stock market and with options , but you HAVE to be educated. Not very many people are willing to do this. They aren't willing to take the time to learn SO that eliminates the majority of people out there. And you have to be reasonably intelligent to understand everything.

It gets pretty deep.

Like anything in life, it takes commitment and perseverence. Not many out there willing to do this Thread Tools Show Printable Version. Display Modes Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode. Search this Thread Advanced Search.

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Thank you, Achiever51 After the first few responses to my original post, I almost gave up on getting anyone to give a reasonable explanation or idea about their experience.

Originally Posted by fmhealth Two thoughts on this topic. Texas Proud Give me a museum and I'll fill it. Originally Posted by fmhealth Bright, you're right on target. Originally Posted by fmhealth Texas, you are indeed a fortunate individual that has found an enlightened Clinician. Originally Posted by bright eyed FM ERD50 Give me a museum and I'll fill it. Originally Posted by fmhealth We do "Rust" from the inside. FinanceDude Give me a museum and I'll fill it. Originally Posted by ERD50 Way off topic, but Investing Seminar Okay, we bit.

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